free speech, free religion, first amendment. back off freedom from religion. i can't stand that group. >> kimberly: we'll talk about the situations illustrating the point of what is going on across the country right now, when we watch it. continue to blame the right. but if you look at who is culpable, kansas. city of buehler, they will remove the cross from the city seal and the city properties because this group, freedom from religion foundation complained that it violates the establishment cause of the constitution. >> dana: one thing i look in to with this is the seal was redesigned 24 years ago. that's when a lot of lawsuits happened. what they were trying to do here, not make a religious point but historic point. the city was established by menonite immigrants seeking refuge from religious persecution. this is an historic point and what marks the town to make it different. they have a point of history to look to. i don't think anyone putting the cross on there was making a religious point, necessarily, though they might be faithful christians. the town w